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UbiquityYou remember that Simpsons episode where they go into a mall and every store is a Starbucks? Omnipresent in Toronto (often directly next to or across from a Second Cup), rare elsewhere. Everywhere in Central London, probably more common than even in Manhattan. Uncommon elsewhere. One near metro Odéon, another opening up soon in Les Halles
Coffee sizes Tall, grande, venti. No small. Small - but you have to ask for it, it's not on the menu board - tall, grande, venti Tall, grande, venti. No small. Petit, moyen, grande. Venti exists, but you have to ask for it.
Coffee-of-the-day variations None. Dark Roast or Mild? Normal or Fair Trade? None. (and it's coffee "de la semaine", ie of the week, not of the day.)
Food Pastries. Pastries. Pastries, sandwiches, salads, paninis they grill for you. Pastries, sandwiches, salads.
Wi-Fi Ubiquitous and reasonably priced on a monthly basis. No. Sometimes, but outrageously expensive. No.
Commercial success Variable, but generally successful. Doing OK, but Second Cup is putting up a ferocious fight. Very successful, largely because the previous competition was pretty much uniformly awful. Too soon to tell, but the one at Odéon is always thronging with people, half tourists, half French.
Approximate average US$ price of a regular filter coffee 1.55 1.10 2.75 2.75


1"Starbucken" is the plural of "Starbucks". A "Starbuckener" is a person who frequents Starbucks. Where did I get these words? I, er, made them up.

I am a fan of Starbucks. I am proud, yes, proud to say this, I do not think I am committing a moral or cultural sin by frequenting them, and I'll take you on one at a time or all in a group if I hafta!

Seriously, I don't understand the intense vitriol that Starbucks inspires in so many people. They serve somewhat overpriced coffee in pleasant surroundings. This is the work of the devil? Heck, even Oxfam is a fan, as cited here. I suppose it's not Starbucks itself but what it represents - the homogenization of the planet, the Evil Multinational Corporations that are Destroying The Earth, the Yuppie Scum who drink their coffee - which is so hated. And coffee being the second most internationally traded commodity in the world (after oil), coffee shops are a natural target for antiglobalisers. All the same, honestly, I just don't get it. But this leads inevitably into my pro-Third-World-sweatshop rant, and, well, we probably don't have time for that in this episode of The World According To [livejournal.com profile] rezendi.

I guess there's also the "destroys local coffee shops" argument. Except, first of all you all saw that South Park episode right?, and second of all, they don't. They just destroy the bad ones that people don't like. That's how competitive trade works. Good coffee shops survive, thrive, and innovate. It's capitalism in action at its finest.


Now reading: Margaret Atwood's The Blind Assassin, which is a fantasy novella wrapped inside a tale of doomed Depression-era love wrapped inside in a twentieth-century family saga told by a dying old woman. ("Oh," I can hear you all sniffing, "one of those".) Stunningly great, so far. Atwood is almost too good for her own good - her similes are amazing, but there are so many of them that if the rest of her writing was any less taut it would start to feel cluttered. It's interesting to compare and contrast with Richler, whose writing is livelier and more personal but doesn't have the same distant, devastating power. He's red wine; she's single-malt Scotch.


Still not sure if I'm going to go to India, but I think the visa problem is solved; I should be able to get a same-day visa from the consulate in Toronto, when back there early October. And for less than half the price it would cost in Paris. Why are things almost always much cheaper in Canada compared to the other First World places I go? I'm not complaining, I'm just economically bewildered.

20,000 words into my new book, I have decided it has gone horribly wrong almost from the start. At least I now think I know what I want to do with it. But in future I really gotta try to work more efficiently.

Date: 2004-09-12 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valdelane.livejournal.com
Your Kink is OK. But, for the sake of conversation, I offer these notes:



  1. In downtown Vancouver, there is an intersection with a bakery with decent coffee on one corner, a very good local coffee shop on another corner, and two Starbucken with sub-standard[2] coffee on kitty-corners. All four shops were quite busy in the winter when I was visiting.

  2. Wait — by definition, Starbucks coffee is now the standard. Which makes most of the other coffee taste better, in my opinion.

  3. More than once, Starbucks employees have corrected my order for a large or enormous coffee, actually refusing take the order until I said the V word.

  4. I required ubiquitous wi-fi for about a year, so subscribed to the T-Mobile service, theoretically present in all domestic Starbucken — actually operational perhaps four out of five times. T-Mobile customer and technical service suck monkey balls.

  5. I disliked the Starbucks brews so much that I stopped ordering them for most of the last three months of the T-Mobile contract.

  6. While I am largely a fan of capitalism, I resent Starbucks driving local shops out of business. Some of them were excellent; but the American public has spoken &mdash especially in the suburbs: a consistent experience is more important than a quality experience (apply to beverages, food, and most shopping). Hmmm, I suppose that really means I resent the American public more than the corporation.

  7. I adored that Simpsons episode. A Starbucks in the bathroom of Starbucks!

Date: 2004-09-13 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezendi.livejournal.com
More than once, Starbucks employees ... actually refusing to take the order until I said the V word.

I admit, that would piss me off a lot too. (I mean, how unclear is 'enormous'?)

I actually feel nice things about their T-Mobile service, as I subscribed to their wi-fi service for my month in Los Angeles, one of their publicity guys gave me a 30-days-free access card, and I was lucky enough to always have it work.

a consistent experience is more important than a quality experience

Disliking them for being blandly consistent, I can respect.

Date: 2004-09-13 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valdelane.livejournal.com
Glad your wireless thingy worked all the time. What bugs me about the bland consistency isn't that Starbucks provides it, but that that vast majority of people want it. So, Starbucks is just tapping the market, I suppose.

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